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By Djembelle
#26058
Hello everybody

Can (and will) someone help me with finding the notation's of Woima?
I would be very happy with it, because it is a very nice rhythm:-)

I really hope you can help me! :)

Greetz
Djembelle
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By djembefeeling
#26059
Hoi Djembele,

do you know the software Percussion Studio? You can download it for free on this site:

http://www.moosware.net/PercussionStudio/

after download and installation also download woima in the rhythm section of the same site -- you can see the notation and listen to the rhythm at the same time, very cool.

ajuus, jürgen
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By Dugafola
#26065
Djembelle wrote:Hello everybody

Can (and will) someone help me with finding the notation's of Woima?
I would be very happy with it, because it is a very nice rhythm:-)

I really hope you can help me! :)

Greetz
Djembelle
the ternary or binary version?
By Daniel Preissler
#26067
A quite clear version of Woima (the ternary version*):


*Is what the Mamady community calls woima the same as (or comparable to) what I call Wölöbaföli, with the Sangban (or more up the the north maybe the Kensedeni) on downbeat (>next track in the same video)?
Next problem: The ternary Woima can be called Wölöbaföli as well (for example by Nundiara in Koumana).
By bkidd
#26068
Here's what Mamady calls Woima (binary version). The % in djembe1 is a lazy flam. Some things may be comparable, but I'll let you guys judge.
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        |: 1 - - - 2 - - - 3 - - - 4 - - - 1 - - - 2 - - - 3 - - - 4 - - - :|
djembe1 |: - - S s - - S s - - S s % - S s - - S s - - S s - - S s % - S s :|
djembe2 |: S - - s S - T t S - - s S - T t S - - s S - T t S - - s S - T t :|

  sbell |: * - * * - * * - * - * * - * * - * - * * - * * - * - * * - * * - :|
sangban |: x - - x - - o - x - - x - - o - x - - x - - o - x - - x - - o - :|

  kbell |: * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - :|
kenkeni |: o - - - o - - - o - - - o - - - o - - - o - - - o - - - o - - - :|

  dbell |: - * - * - * - * * - * - * - * - * - * * - * * - * - * - * - * * :|
dununba |: - o - o - o - o o - o - o - o - o - o o - - - - - - - - - - o o :|
Nice video Daniel!
-Brian
By Daniel Preissler
#26069
not very common when it comes to judge Mamady's class versions, but: I like it! :-)

the same or not the same...
it serves the same musical lines and something more: The longer part being reserved for the dundunba can be find in several rhythms (dibons et al). As it hits the same subject, one special rhythm comes to my mind, that has the same (or let's say: close) job division between Sangban and Dundunba (and Kensedeni, of course). BUT: it's ternary and played like a Dundunba. It's name, too, is Wölö or Wölöba or Wölöbaföli, and here it makes more sense still, as the masks dancing to it are called Wölö. I'll put another video uniting all the three rhythms I was talking about:
The latter (dundunba like) coming first, then the binary one, then the one being known as "Woima" everywhere. Have fun!
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBcQ867UoWY[/video]
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By Dugafola
#26071
there are great examples of the ternary woima on Solo Keita's first disc and the recently released Bundiani disc.

i asked Bolokada about woima a while ago and he said that he has played for Woima many times but it was just djembekan with no dununs.
By Djembelle
#26155
WOW!!! Thank you all for your answer, information and notations.

It's great and I am very happy with it!!

Happy Easter;-)
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By korman
#39244
It would be interesting to see the ternary woima notated. Everywhere you see only the MK's binary version
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By korman
#39246
Gumbe_2013 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:09 pm
One of my favorite rhythms 😁
Thanks! And what about 'chauffe?
Gumbe_2013 wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:09 pm
Kenkeni:
x.Ox.Ox.Ox.O
Are you sure about that? In the first video the kensedeni is on the beat.
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By Gumbe_2013
#39247
Kensedeni should be offbeat.... i learned it from Ibro Konate/Mansa Camio a couple of years ago...

For the chauff you can use the phrases of the 2nd Video (Preissler) and the 3rd Video.


Another sources on CD:
Famoudou Konaté - Waima (Hamana Kundo)
Solo Keita, Family & Friends - Woima Sory (Sangbarala Folikan)
Mansa Camio & Sofôli - Woima bolo (Tama Diada)
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By Dugafola
#39248
Gumbe_2013 wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:42 pm
Kensedeni should be offbeat.... i learned it from Ibro Konate/Mansa Camio a couple of years ago...

For the chauff you can use the phrases of the 2nd Video (Preissler) and the 3rd Video.


Another sources on CD:
Famoudou Konaté - Waima (Hamana Kundo)
Solo Keita, Family & Friends - Woima Sory (Sangbarala Folikan)
Mansa Camio & Sofôli - Woima bolo (Tama Diada)
daniel is quite certain that the offbeat kenkeni is a Famoudou invention. it may be common place now, but original part would be on the beat. i also asked Namory about this and he confirmed.
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By korman
#39251
Dugafola wrote:
Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:23 pm
daniel is quite certain that the offbeat kenkeni is a Famoudou invention. it may be common place now, but original part would be on the beat.
i also asked Namory about this and he confirmed.
Thanks, Dugafola!

This rhythm caught my attention precisely because of the down beat kensedeni (and relatively easy dundunba), which could make it a good starting choice for this group of rhythms.