TNT wrote:“Looking at the list of 40 or so snare rudiments it is surprising how few are applicable to djembe.”
With all due respect to each their own, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that. I have played them all on the Djembe and they work great! As I op’ed, I didn’t start this thread to debate what is already posted. I think the problem is a lot of people don’t understand rudiments and how to apply them effectively to any drum.
Hi TNT. I doubt we disagree at all. I never meant to imply that you can't play rudiments on a djembe (Indeed I said that I practice them from time to time). When I said they are not applicable I simply meant that they don't turn up in either solo or accompaniment phrases on djembe. For that reason I always end up practising other things. Like I said I think they are great for developing coordination.
Point in case, anyone that is familiar with the snare knows that it has more than three pitches to work with. Just like the Djembe, as you play closer to the rim you get a higher pitch sound like a “slap”. If you play a rim shot more pitches, and if you do the rim shot at different locations on the skin even more just toward the rim. You’ll find many different pitches or “tones” if you will as you go towards center, center having the deepest or “bass”. If you have kit experience, you know this applies to all the different toms, bass drum, and surrounding percussions where you will find a much more challenging matrix of pitches to apply rudiments to. Yes, rudiment pitch control is equally important to the snare, Djembe, and any other drums that has more than one, as again is “feel”. Point is the Djembe is no different than many other drums and perhaps simpler for some to apply rudiments to. The rudiments and snare became popular back in the 50’s with marching bands, later developed to the kit by big name drummers as Buddy Rich, Louie Bellson, etc, and has become traditional to many drummers and drums across the world due to their effectiveness which can be seen by their history. Calling them “snare rudiments” is far outdated
Well, you're right that I don't know a great deal about snare. No I didn't know there were different pitches (though I was aware of rim shots). That doesn't change my point though, since this (presumably advanced) technique doesn't turn up in any of the rudiments. Slap/tone differentiation, however, is fundamental to traditional djembe. It's the first thing you learn. My point was that slap/tone is fundamental to djembe. Try playing paradiddles using combinations of slaps and tones and it increases the difficulty a lot. I simply meant that if you were developing rudiments for djembe they would surely have to include slap/tone differentiation.
Calling them “snare rudiments” is far outdated
Fair enough. What should we call them? Maybe 'stick rudiments' is more appropriate...
Incidentally I have no problem with fusion...I started off playing djembe with DJs in drum and bass and hard house clubs; I played djembe in a funk band for years and I'd love to create a kind of afrobeat based around dundun patterns but with a big brass section and a funky bassist!