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#38065
lord creator wrote:...I do not know how they differ as to sound. How does that work? what do the different woods, in general, sound like.
I'll post an article about this subject shortly. It's contentious, so I can only share what I've noticed. Generally speaking they all sound great, but each have their own advantages and weaknesses. But there are also exceptions, like light yellow Lenke doesn't sound the same as darker Lenke (orange, red, purple), etc. This is due to variations in density and presence of chemicals which change the hardness and resonance response of the wood. These variations can be caused by placement in the tree (lower is denser due to weight pressure) or age (older is denser) or nutrients in the soil, water availability to the tree etc.
Dugafola wrote:nice writeup.

also kazdrums and onetreedrums are worth checking into.
Seconded (nice writeup by Worchester Drums).

Couldnt find a website for Onetreedrums though, just Facebook.
NHO Kazdrums, will check em out.

Nice find Boromir, Djembe-webshop drums look good for the price. Return shipping would be prohibitive. I'd ask them to play it over the phone and send interior stem pics. (I'd ask that of US shops too, but worth mentioning if anyone considers UK purchases especially)

Another one in a similar pricerange ($400-500) is HawkDancing.
Sort of generic looking drums, like the Kangaba/Overseas Connection stuff, but if you get a good one, it can be good for the price.
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#38084
(BTW: I got a malicious site warning at onetreedrums.com - not sure if it was a false alarm but I never proceed to find out. If I knew them I'd contact them about it.)

I just discovered these two stores which are also worth mentioning since we're listing all the decent sources we know of:

-drumconnection.com (USA, look good for the price, mostly $500-600 but one is $750)

and

-alpharhythmroots.com (in Canada, all $760CAD) [mostly Lenke - I'm not sure if "African Mahogany" refers to Djalla or Acajou, which are similar but not the same subspecies]

Another thing to check is shipping costs. The practices vary from free, to low cost shipping, to full cost shipping which often runs over $100 even if it's not too far away, so factor that in too.
Also check the return period, (is it 7 days, 2 weeks, 30 days?), and whether there's restocking fees or no hassle returns, and what the terms are.
None pay return shipping, but that goes without saying I think, unless it's defective or not as advertised. I'll never pay return shipping on an item that's not as described. Full refund period.
But check the fine print before buying.
#38085
@lord...if djalla is really what you're after, i saw an amazing piece at Drumskull the other night after a class. it's all heartwood with no decorative carving at all. size was probably around 13.5". it already had a skin mounted but not pulled, shaved or tuned. it could be yours!!!
#38088
Generally, Djalla is great for having articulate tones. Rings clearly like a bell. Less warm than Lenke, less bright than Hare. Less dense than Lenke, so sounds better on smaller diameter djembes imo.

Another source of what look to be good quality djembes is djembe-art.de
They have different pricing/quality tiers, and recordings of some of the drums.
One warning though is they seem confused about one of the species.
They call it Palisander, Rosewood, Ghenou and Gbeng, and mistakenly identify it as Dalberiga species.
First of all, no african djembes I've ever seen are made of Palisander/Rosewood/Dalbergia. Period.
Ghenou is a synonym for Hare/Khadi/Balafon wood, which is Pterocarpus, not Dalbergia.
That's what they look like, so I'm thinking that's probably what they are.
Secondly, Beng is a synonym for Dugura/Dimba, not Ghenou.
Not a real issue, the drums look great, but worth mentioning in case of confusion. It's easy to get mixed up, so I wouldn't take it as a sign of their competance.
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#38089
Based on looks I like Cassia and Djalla the best. But I have two gon bop congas and no djembe, i wanted to splurge and get a really cool one, but I dont know much about the sound thing. Will probably go with the Cassia, that one looks sweet.
#38256
Lord Creator:
Did you end up getting the Cassia from Wooden Roots?

Everyone:
I need to post a correction. I made the erroneous assertion that Cassia is a particularly hard wood, which is actually the opposite of the truth. I had it confused with another species with a similar name. I'm sorry for posting misinfo before double checking my facts.
It sounds great though, whatever the density, going by the recordings I've heard. A bit like Djalla, it has the ability to "sing" in a sweet voice.
By Paul
#38289
I have a lenke shell from djembe-webshop in berlin in the post. I'll let you know how I get on. I've been playing gueni and bala drums for ages, and have found lenke drums a bit light sounding before, so fingers crossed.

I have a friend who ordered a drum from wassalou, nice drum but it was poorly packed and badly damaged in transit.

While I havent played any of the US based drum company drums the standard pricing is much lower Europe. For 400euro I expect top of the line here.
#38291
batadunbata wrote: Another source of what look to be good quality djembes is djembe-art.de
They have different pricing/quality tiers, and recordings of some of the drums.
One warning though is they seem confused about one of the species.
They call it Palisander, Rosewood, Ghenou and Gbeng, and mistakenly identify it as Dalberiga species.
First of all, no african djembes I've ever seen are made of Palisander/Rosewood/Dalbergia. Period.
Ghenou is a synonym for Hare/Khadi/Balafon wood, which is Pterocarpus, not Dalbergia.
That's what they look like, so I'm thinking that's probably what they are.
Secondly, Beng is a synonym for Dugura/Dimba, not Ghenou.
Not a real issue, the drums look great, but worth mentioning in case of confusion. It's easy to get mixed up, so I wouldn't take it as a sign of their competance.
I have bought once a djembe from them. Unfortunetaly I don't remember from what kind of wood it was made. It was nicely done, with good ropes and rings. One thing that bothered me particularly was that it looked like the interior was heavely sanded and therefore practicaly without any chisel marks left... It looked like the interior would be made with a machine, althou I supose it was not. The djembe was quite small so it had still nice sound and no partcular ringing, which would be kind of expected with this kind of interior...
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By michi
#38294
We have a thread for those kinds of drums:

humour-f29/professional-djembes-t1214.html#p6735

I've been reading the descriptions of the drums they have on their website at the moment. If German isn't your mother tongue, you won't get the irony of this… The lyrical descriptions put the worst wine snob to shame.

The wine equivalent would be "Hints of boysenberry with a strong note of smelly saddle as the foundation, tempered by interesting highlights of cinnamon, with just the faintest suggestion of star anise as part of the denouement."

Those guys need their heads looked at, IMO.

Michi.