The Shell

Advice and questions on keeping your instruments in top form
djembefola.com logo
 

The Shell

Postby Allurelife100 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 9:19 am

A lot of djembe players such as my self for years let their drum makers do all of the work on their drums. My drum maker is up in age now, and is starting to be a little "careless" with handling my drums like he used to. I want to know how to fix cracks, shave skins (without knicks), and moisturize the shell for long lasting wood. Any good guidance here??? :uglynerd:
User avatar
Allurelife100
Djabarafola
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:28 am
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Rhythm House Drums » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:12 am

There is definitely an art to building a drum. If your passion is drumming, than let someone else take care of building your drums and just learn how to tune your drums to your taste.

If you really want to dive into building these things, search around on the forum.. I'm pretty sure all the topics you've mentioned above have been discussed on here. Maybe someone can post the links to those topics, I'm not too familiar with the search functions.

No doubt the info is on this site thought.. so look around and you'll learn all you ever wanted!
User avatar
Rhythm House Drums
3 ksing ksing
 
Posts: 342
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:27 pm
Location: Matthews NC, USA
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Allurelife100 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:57 am

Thanks Rhythm House, I have check a lot on here and some info has helped me thus far.
User avatar
Allurelife100
Djabarafola
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:28 am
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby jeffduyndam » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:45 am

Hi Allurelife100,

I like to use coconut oil on the djembe shell. Drumskulls uses coconut oil on all their drums.

I shave a skin after it has dried and after I have pulled the verticals (vertical rope) tight.

I use a two part wood colored epoxy to fill cracks.

Another way to fill small cracks is to mix Elmers wood glue with some of the wood dust/sawdust from the exact wood that the shell is made from.

happy drumming :-)
User avatar
jeffduyndam
1 ksing ksing
 
Posts: 60
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:34 am
Location: Sebastopol, California
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Allurelife100 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:07 pm

Thanks Jeff that is quite helpful. I was reluctant to try coconut oil but I did see they offered it at Drumskulls. I have seen the glue and sawdust method done many times, I just have to practice at it. I also need practice on shaving the skin. Thanks for the support. :)
User avatar
Allurelife100
Djabarafola
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:28 am
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Rhythm House Drums » Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:21 pm

@Jeff
you shave the skin after it's dry? Are you talking about hairless skin? I've always shaved them right after I pull the verts pretty tight and the skin is still wet.... I'll do a light dry shave and some light sanding (400 grit or so) but do the heavy stuff while the skin is wet... less risk of cutting the skin this way I'd think.
User avatar
Rhythm House Drums
3 ksing ksing
 
Posts: 342
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:27 pm
Location: Matthews NC, USA
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Allurelife100 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:21 pm

What about cleaning the shell? Would some sort of oil soap be adequate for cleaning the shell before oiling the shell?
User avatar
Allurelife100
Djabarafola
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:28 am
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Dugafola » Wed Sep 15, 2010 7:08 pm

Allurelife100 wrote:What about cleaning the shell? Would some sort of oil soap be adequate for cleaning the shell before oiling the shell?


i don't think you need soap at all. maybe just a slightly damp rag to wipe it down.

pretty much any oil will work on your shell: olive, orange, grapeseed etc
should i shave my moustache?
User avatar
Dugafola
Djembefola
 
Posts: 1514
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:03 pm
Location: Santa Cruz CA, USA
Blog: View Blog (7)

Re: The Shell

Postby Allurelife100 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:34 am

Thanks Duga, this is completely new for me. I am ready to dig in a get some work done now!
User avatar
Allurelife100
Djabarafola
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:28 am
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby shortypalmer » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:35 pm

Lot so folks use different oils on their drum shells, i have found that boiled linseed oil (it comes already boiled from the store) mixed with two parts of no odor mineral spirits work really well. I had an Iroko shell come to me completely dry, nothing on it, it did not have a crack to be seen, a week later it developed some small cracks all along the bottom on the bowel on the corner of the of the bowel where it turns under. i put two coats of my mixture on and the cracks went away. experience is a great teacher.
shorty
www.goatskins.com
shortypalmer
1 ksing ksing
 
Posts: 103
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:27 pm
Location: Seymour TN, USA
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Dugafola » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:42 pm

re: oil.

the one thing i learned is that you can over oil a shell. i've gone to town on a few shells...applying oil for days straight and letting them bake in the sun/shade to help darken the grain. even when wiping off the excess, oil would still coagulate to the surface of the shell when the climate turned cool i.e. in the winter or when it sits in a case for awhile.

nowadays, i oil my shells lightly every other skin which is probably every 8 months or so on average. it also helps that i live on the coast and not in a drier climate. drier climates would probably require more frequent applications of oil.
should i shave my moustache?
User avatar
Dugafola
Djembefola
 
Posts: 1514
Joined: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:03 pm
Location: Santa Cruz CA, USA
Blog: View Blog (7)

Re: The Shell

Postby bubudi » Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:24 am

be careful mixing linseed oil with mineral oils as this has been known to spontaneously combust. a friend of mine left the cloth he used to apply the mixture on his laundry windowsill for 10 minutes and it caught on fire. luckily he was in the yard and saw it or else he could have lost his whole house! (if you've ever started a fire with a magnifying glass you'll know just how easily an oily cloth left in the sun can catch fire, but add to that something as flammable as turps and you're asking for trouble). i usually mix the linseed oil with other oils so don't get the need to thin it down with turps.
bubudi
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3251
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:56 am
Blog: View Blog (1)

Re: The Shell

Postby freefeet » Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:17 pm

Tung oil! Far nicer stuff than linseed.

Thin down equal parts with a solvent like white spirit, apply plenty and wipe off any excess thoroughly after 20 minutes. There shouldn't be a layer of oil over the wood.

Tung oil will polymerise far tougher than linseed does and doesn't have that awful smell either.
User avatar
freefeet
2 ksing ksing
 
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:36 pm
Location: Barefoot in Devon
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby fattyboombatty » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:32 am

I use natural beeswax polish on my shells, doesn't turn to a white haze like coconut oil, and keeps the original colour of the wood nicely.
fattyboombatty
Kenkenifola
 
Posts: 32
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:37 am
Blog: View Blog (0)

Re: The Shell

Postby Djembe-nerd » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:00 pm

I use Miniwax finishing wax after putting 2 coats inside and outside of Watco teak oil, for dense woods.

Excellent results, last coated 3 shells with the same combination about a year ago, one iroko, one hare and one lenke. The outside has become a darker shade than the original wood from the wax finish, but the grain comes out really nice and the inside doesn't look dry till now.

The coconut oil from DSD is not my favorite. I had it in the shells that I bought from DSD, they looked very nice and oiled when I got them with the nice grain showing, but after 6-8 months the shell starts looking dry. The color change of the shell because of the dryness is very obvious in 6-8 months.
If you want to see me kick some butt, just tell me about all the things you think I won't be able to do
User avatar
Djembe-nerd
Djembefola
 
Posts: 734
Joined: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:33 am
Location: Houston TX, USA
Blog: View Blog (0)


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest






Feedback

Translate this page using Google