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any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby thrinley » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:52 pm

Does a 13.5 inches djembe with 42set of verticals, have a true benefits over the same size of djembe with 30 sets of vertical? both djembe have ledge!
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby michi » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:28 pm

42 loops is ridiculous, especially for a drum this small. I've never used more than 32 loops, even for 15" drums. I normally use 28 loops, which works for anything from 13-15".

I can't see any benefit of using that many loops. I guess the only argument in favor would be the visual appearance you get that way. I'd use thin rope though, 4-4.5mm, otherwise it will look really chunky once you start weaving.

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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby thrinley » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:31 pm

thanks Michi, I have just rope up a djembe before rehead, it came with 42 sets of vertical, it is really tedious work. I wonder did I get more from it? thanks for your reply.

by the way I have read many of your contribution in the community. thank you so much. and also thanks the others contribute in this forum, really learn a lot from you guy.
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby michi » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:00 pm

thrinley wrote:thanks Michi, I have just rope up a djembe before rehead, it came with 42 sets of vertical, it is really tedious work.

Yes, a lot of extra work, and a lot of extra rope (about 8.5m extra for an average drum).

I wonder did I get more from it?

I'm a frayed knot. (Pun intended ;) )

by the way I have read many of your contribution in the community. thank you so much. and also thanks the others contribute in this forum, really learn a lot from you guy.

You are welcome. Share and enjoy! :)

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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby thrinley » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:36 pm

When I have done it I will snap a photo to show you...I hope in getvitbat least look nice..hahahah...sound is non compromise!!!! hahaha Merry christmas.
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby thrinley » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:24 pm

here you go, have not tune and cut the excess skin yet, it look nice! i guess after making some diamond will look nice too!
I am wondering does it provide more even pressure to the skin?

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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby the kid » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:48 pm

Looks like a great drum and very good job on the skinning. I would also have thought 42 was too many verts but the end result looks sweet. The tension will be extra solid due to extra rope used. Where did you pick up your drums.
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby thrinley » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:51 am

Thank you for your compliment, after 2 years of working on my own and friends djembe, I started to have good over heading djembe.
I remember when I started playing djembe first year, when the skin broke, my heart is broken, no body repair drum professionally here in kuala lumpur. now, hahaha...when skin broken, just change it...and have new sound...
about the djembe, got it from "Ke Africa" this guy Bolokada call him Condeke.
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby thrinley » Sun Jan 02, 2011 12:53 am

by the way can you see the photo I post on web, or you have to click to go to the picasa site to see...I am still figuring out, I cannot see in my computer...
while I post another cow skin drum in show of your axe, it kind of appear in the forum???!!!
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby bubudi » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:39 am

sheng, that's a nice drum. i know bolokada uses more verticals on his drums, but this is the first one of his that i've seen with 42 verticals. when was bolo in kuala lumpur? or did you meet him in guinea or america?

i edited your message to display the picture correctly. you had the right idea, it's just that your link was to the page that displays the picture, rather than the actual picture! the link must be of the picture itself (ending with .jpg, .gif, etc). when you are viewing the picture in the browser, right click it and select 'copy image location', and you will have the true link to the picture.
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Postby thrinley » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:45 am

Thanks Bubudi! My friend name is Daouda, when Bolokada in Taipei he gave him a family name and call him Condeke the words ke is kind of like big brother I guess. Last year Daouda and I invite Bolokada to come to Taipei, we manage to get only 3 days only. After Bolokada adjusted for his jet lag, it's time for him to go Chicago ! We have a good time.
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby leekahheng » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:02 pm

I replaced the skin of a djembe with 42 vertical before. It was horrible. So much verts to undo and redo. I think 30 - 34 will be enough depending on the size.
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby Waraba » Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:29 am

I love the cowrie shells!
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby nkolisnyk » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:41 am

Hey I hate to play devil's advocate, but someone must speak for the 42-vertical djembe!

The first 42-vert drum I did was so painful that I swore off of doing any drums from Ghana ever again. But I made friends with a guy in town who has family in Ghana and imports djembes to sell here. He had 7 drums for me to re-skin, and I bit my tongue and dove in. I have to say, after drum number 3, I really started to like working on them. Here's a few reasons why:

#1 The rope is really thin (unlike 5mm rope on my own drum), so it is very pliable and doesn't tangle at all, if you feed it it backwards using needle nose pliers. And if you develop a good system of pulling it through the crown/bottom ring, it coils nicely for the next vertical. ALSO, the rope's not heavy enough to knock over your beer when you pull it through.

#2 Sure it's a bit stretchy when you do the dry pull, but it's kind of like a shoe lace. It only stretches so much, and then there's no more give. So it's possible to get the drum up to Guinea hot-shot playing pitch, though I usually tune these drums a bit lower.

#3 Los of verticals makes the drum less sensitive to pulling the verts unevenly. If you start pulling to hard, they will easily absorb the mistake (hard to explain)

In short, 42 verts are OK, just make sure there's a good hockey game/movie on TV and you have a beer. Kind of like knitting.
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Re: any true benefits of having 42sets of verticle

Postby bkidd » Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:50 am

nkolisnyk wrote:
In short, 42 verts are OK, just make sure there's a good hockey game/movie on TV and you have a beer. Kind of like knitting.


Is this how you describe re-heading drums to non-drummers? I love it.

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