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Name that tune

Postby James » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:01 pm

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Re: Name that tune

Postby Dugafola » Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:18 pm

lafe or denebadunun

too easy.
should i shave my moustache?
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Re: Name that tune

Postby Paul » Tue Oct 19, 2010 8:51 pm

Is there meant to be an independent open note..
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Re: Name that tune

Postby James » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:52 am

I Paul, I will check on this it seems likely I made a mistake...
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Re: Name that tune

Postby Mikeleza » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:14 pm

A question... How do I write rhythms here like the one above?
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Re: Name that tune

Postby michi » Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:27 pm

Mikeleza wrote:A question... How do I write rhythms here like the one above?

Check out Bubudi's tutorial.

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Re: Name that tune

Postby Mikeleza » Sun Nov 07, 2010 6:13 am

I followed the instructions but I have the same problem as you had it seems.

The boxes don't appear
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Re: Name that tune

Postby michi » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:11 am

I just tried again, and it doesn't work for me either. (Safari 5.0.2)

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Re: Name that tune

Postby Mikeleza » Sun Nov 07, 2010 7:21 am

Anyway... I would like to see if someone has a name for this sangban rhythm.

X-X-XX-XX-X-X-X-XX-XX-X-
C---OO----O-C---OO-OO-O-
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Re: Name that tune

Postby Afoba » Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:21 pm

that's Soli. A variety of the ternary Soliba I'ld say.
where did you here it?
"normal" versions would be o /x x o x x o /
or o /+ x o /+ x o / #
or 0 /+ x oo oo o /+ x oo oo o /+

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Re: Name that tune

Postby Mikeleza » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:46 am

Thanks Afoba, you could be right.
It would make sense because the explanation of the song was a song of circumcision... They called it Kono... Has anyone heard of Kono? (Apart from Mamady's ballet creation)

I heard it at the Babaniko camp in Cathalonia last August.

It was one of the pieces they played in the dance class. The dance and song was taught by Bebey Youla and the band was Souleymane Cobra, Lamine ??, Yousouf Traore, Jeremy Tomasck and a few other younger guys.

Yousouf played a dununba part very similar to Mendiani and the Kenkeni played a part accenting the third not of every triplet. (like Mamady's version of Konden)

I don't understand your notation.
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Re: Name that tune

Postby bubudi » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:05 am

afoba, i am trying to make sense of your notation. if i understand correctly, the 'o' is an open note played together with bell, while the 'x' is a bell stroke with no corresponding note on the skin. but what is the '#' and '+'?

mike and michi, i've responded to the messages about the notation feature in the relevant thread.
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Re: Name that tune

Postby Afoba » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:57 pm

again:
X-X-X-X-X-X-
C---O-C---O-
or: without the closed ones (that doesn't work using your notation, Mikeleza)

or:
X-X-XX-XX-X-X-X-XX-XX-X-
C---oo-oo-o-C---OO-OO-O- that doesn't work so well either)

so: c x oo oo o /c x oo oo o /c

The Kensedeni is as for the better known other Soli, or downbeat (rarely), but I wouldn't expect Mamady to do it that way, for there often is a huge gap between the Style of the Kouroussa region and Mamdy's classes. A Kensedeni stroke on each third pulsation is very probably a modern invention and normally a Famoudou one.

What do you mean by "a dundunba part very similar to Mendiani", Mikeleza? What I play for the so called Mendiani wouldn't fit to the class version that goes around the world (though some people play it for that) and I don't know what you play for it.
My dundunba basic version on this rythm here is
/x-xx-xx-xx-x/x-xx
/B--B-----B--/B--B
or: /B XB XX XB X/B XB

Bubudi, your interpretation was correct. I chosed + for the closed one, but don't mind to take c instead. the # was a mistake for I didn't take much time for my posting d;-). Sorry!

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Re: Name that tune

Postby Mikeleza » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:18 pm

Ok... I think I get it... and yes that sangban part you posted looks very similar. Well, its the same except mine is a two bar cycle with the first bar having a bit more space.

The mendiani I was thinking of was with an offbeat Dununba that hovers around the one. Yousouf was playing the offbeat triplets either side of the "one".

-o-o-x-xx-oo/-o-o-x-xx-oo

or sometimes he played
-oo-xx-xx-oo/-oo-xx-xx-oo
which is he "mendiani" part I was referring to...

Not sure which region that version is from but I would like to know if you could explain.

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