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Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Bas » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:15 am

Hi All...

These are recordings of a workshop from Ibrahima Sarr Which i joined last august.

Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?553wrf65onb4qaf ( Slow Download but worth the wait..)

Also Look this Ngri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1zyYYesKEE

The workshops take place every year on Schiermonnikoog which is a little island at the North of the Netherlands. Check out>>: http://www.djembe-drame.nl/ for details! section is called foto's en filmpjes for movie links

My Teacher of Djembe: Mousse Drame does a 3 day weekend with workshops every year for Dance and Djembe and this time it was the tenth aniversery and they got us a good set of Masters to Teach Good Stuff

I name a few...

Mousse Drame ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kDhtKWm ... re=related )
Ibrahima Sarr
Babara Bangoura

Youssef Coumbasa (dance )

Before years we had:

Sidiki Camara
Kissima Drame
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Dugafola » Mon Oct 04, 2010 8:18 pm

thanks bas.

is Sarr right handed or left handed?

i've learned basically the same phrases just handed a different way.

i've found that the solo ride/accomp for n'gri can be handed a number of ways.
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Michel » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:06 pm

He didn't even talk about hands. Just play what he plays, figure the hands out for yourself. My experience with most of (African) teachers.
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Onetreedrums » Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:21 pm

Whaddup, Duga? When I was in Mali I noticed the same thing. Ibrahima tended to play many phrases I have learned from Abdoul Doumbia or Mady Keita with the opposite handing.
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Bas » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:40 am

Right Handed as i mirrored what he played also look movie link i put with Sarr

Oh and i mistakenly Meantioned kissima drame which is the son of Mousse Drame i meant Kissiama Diabate.... and i forget one of my favorite : Harouna Dembele also gave worksshops the 2 before years... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpskBcbpTlY (harouna and his little sister)
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Onetreedrums » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:10 pm

Oops, I spoke too soon. I probably should have watched the video before I commented (thanks for uploading!). Ibrahima's handing is the same as Abdoul Doumbia's, which I recognize as right handed. There is one difference though, Abdoul starts the root solo phrase with two basses (L, R - "and, one") rather than with one bass on the beat as demonstrated by Ibrahima. I do remember watching Ibrahima play in Bamako and noticed that his handing was mirror image of how I had learned some phrases ... I think it was Maraka, but I honestly can't remember. BTW, the recordings of Dansa and Ngri are fantastic!
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Dugafola » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:14 pm

Onetreedrums wrote:Oops, I spoke too soon. I probably should have watched the video before I commented (thanks for uploading!). Ibrahima's handing is the same as Abdoul Doumbia's, which I recognize as right handed. There is one difference though, Abdoul starts the root solo phrase with two basses (L, R - "and, one") rather than with one bass on the beat as demonstrated by Ibrahima. I do remember watching Ibrahima play in Bamako and noticed that his handing was mirror image of how I had learned some phrases ... I think it was Maraka, but I honestly can't remember. BTW, the recordings of Dansa and Ngri are fantastic!


cool. i've seen both the single and the "and one" basses. but i've seen 'folas double up on the right hand after the right hand bass>slap. that's the way i started to play a lot of the phrases for ngri but realize that it takes a lot more effort to double at a good tempo.
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby James » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:33 pm

Nice... thanks very much for the recordings!
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby James » Thu Oct 07, 2010 2:41 pm

Why is the Konkoni and the Sangban for Dansa than the one I know (which is the same as Dansa on mali tradition)?

And also I always thought of the Konkoni as taking on the role of Sangban, so I'm confused by the Dansa track called konkoni and Sangban but I haven't studied too much Malian djembe.
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Michel » Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:48 pm

I am sorry answering for Bas, I was at the same workshop: The tracks must have the names: '(rhythm)' with Konkoni and Jelidunun. As you can see in the videosection where Sarr demonstrates n'gri.
I am going to try to answer your first question later.
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Bas » Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:25 am

Yes Listen to michel. he studied these phrases at the Source. I just sit and watch and play what i see and hear... theoreticly i know not much. I even didnt know that was a konkoni untill michel told me that it was not a kenkenni which i thought it was....

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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Michel » Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:28 pm

I listened to various versions of dansa, and as far as I could hear the konkoni is the same all the time. But I must admit that most of my versions of dansa are from around the national ballet of Mali/Ibrahima Sarr. So it could be they all play the same (ballet) version....
The jelidunun varies with the (solophrase for the) dance.
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby Bas » Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:33 am

What is a Jelidunun??
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Re: Ibrahima Sarr: Dansa & Ngri Audio Recordings August 2010

Postby bubudi » Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:04 am

Bas wrote:What is a Jelidunun??


see here and here.
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