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Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Christian93 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:46 pm

Hello

I have been drumming for several years now and it is starting to get on my nerves that i can not bring my instrument with me when backpacking - that is why i am considering to learn how to play the djembe.

Obviously i need a djembe to play, but i have no idea which kind of djembe to get. Since the main purpose is to play it at the camp fire when hiking it is quite important that it will not break or get out of tune if exposed to water.

Since my main instrument is still the drums my budget is 200 euros (give and take) and that must cover shipping to Denmark

Hope that some of you pros can give me a piece of advice - I know nothing about djembes :)

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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Waraba » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:33 am

With a natural skin you will always have problems if the skin gets exposed to water. I don't know about synthetic skins. Have you considered a doumbek? Goblet shaped like a djembe, but very light and small. Different technique involved (of which I know nothing)...

Otherwise, for portability, you should consider a Wassolo djembe (they are half-sized). You should be able to get a lightweight djembe without much difficulty for the euros in your budget. Try Wula--they have plenty of smaller, lightweight djembes with fine workmanship and well within your price range. They won't be on the website but if you initiate email contact they can snap photos and send those to you.

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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Christian93 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:03 am

Thank you very much for you answer!

The problem is that Wula drums is in USA, and shipping to Europe is rather expensive. I have been looking at Meinl, Remo and Toca Percussion - are they any good? I get a feeling that you djembe players don't like mass produced djembes
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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby freefeet » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:15 am

I like my Remo 10 inch key tuned for camping and general roughing it... http://www.remo.com/portal/products/6/28/175/dj_kt.html

The larger ones sound absolutely ghastly to my ears, but the 10 inch isn't too bad. Still a bit ringy, but for camping and throwing on the back of my bike it certainly does the job.

It's great for all weathers and conditions. It's nothing like a good wood djembe, but i wouldn't take a good wood djembe anywhere i'd take the Remo.
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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby michi » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:16 pm

Personally, I would stay clear of fibreglass djembes. They sound too awful...

For travel, a small-headed (11-12") djembe would probably be best because it saves on weight and size. I'd still go with a carved shell made out of one of the traditional woods, if you can. It will sound much better, even though it will be heavier.

I don't like synthetic skins because the sound is never quite the same as that of goat. Usually quite metallic and shrill. But, for a travel djembe, a synthetic skin is probably the right thing. You won't have problems with changes in temperature and humidity, and a synthetic skin will last longer and be more resistant to knocks than a goat skin. I don't have first-hand experience with it, but Remo NuSkyn has a good reputation.

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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Christian93 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:05 pm

Hello!

Thank you for these great answers! I have been look at ALOT of djembes now, and it is really hard to decide but i think that one of these djembes will be the one to buy:
- Afroton Masterclass
- Meinl Earth Rhythm
- Meinl Wood Djembe
- Toca Black Mamba Djembe

So my question is: which one of these djembes do you guys think is the best?

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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby michi » Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:59 am

Christian93 wrote:it is really hard to decide but i think that one of these djembes will be the one to buy:
- Afroton Masterclass
- Meinl Earth Rhythm
- Meinl Wood Djembe
- Toca Black Mamba Djembe

I have no first-hand experience with any of these. But, generally, drums from these makers don't enjoy a good reputation. So, before you settle on a drum, I would recommend to at least ask Drumskull and Wula for something of similar size. They probably will be able to fit it with a synthetic skin for you too. Chances are that you will get a much better drum that way.

If you really want to buy one of these branded djembes, I would recommend to find music stores that stock them so can hear what they sound like. However, doing this makes sense only if the store is willing to tune the drum up to playing pitch. Unfortunately, most of the drums I come across in stores are nowhere near proper tension, which makes it impossible to judge what they actually sound like.

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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Waraba » Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:00 am

Christian 93--where do you live?
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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Trog » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:09 am

A Doumbek would work well for camping. Check them out on u-tube.
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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Christian93 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:58 pm

Waraba wrote:Christian 93--where do you live?


I live in Denmark - that is why i doubt that Wula or Drumskull is the right way to go even though their djembes look nice. The shipping cost is simply going to be too expensive
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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby freefeet » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:16 pm

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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Waraba » Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:22 am

Have you asked those guys about shipping costs to Denmark? When I went on djembemoves.com the shipping prices seemed pretty steep too, if you live outside Germany. Nevertheless, the quality looked pretty good on the site. I assume you've already looked around Denmark for a source?
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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby freefeet » Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:02 am

http://www.djembemoves.com/6-1-Postage.html

29 Euro insured or 11.60 Euro uninsured

Obviously you would want the insured, but i don't think 29 Euro is that expensive if you're paying 300 on a musical instrument.

Other option would be to take the bus to Berlin (approx 67 Euro return) and have a nice weekend visiting the city and buy a drum while you're there. At least then you could try before you buy. I'm presuming they would let you buy in person.

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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Erny » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:03 am

Hi Chris,

I have some (or similar) drums of the ones you mention above.

I recorded a short session with each of them for you to make up your own mind concernig the different sounds.

Recorded with Zoom H2, 192 Kbps and boosted to 0dB with audacity, no other modification!

To my mind you should hear and play the drum you choose if this is possible!

Regards
...Erny



That´s how they are looking:

Mali - Meinl (Moon Rhythm) - Remo (Black Earth) - Toca (Black Mamba)

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That´s how they are sounding:

D1 Mali 14inch.mp3
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D2 Meinl 12inch.mp3
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Last edited by Erny on Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:43 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Need help to find a Djembe

Postby Erny » Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:06 am

and here are the missing two others:

D3 Remo 14inch.mp3
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D4 Toca 12inch.mp3
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My favorite drum today is the Black Mamba because I like the sound, the easy way to in- and decrease the pitch and it´s weight which makes playing while standing very easy, too for a longer time e.g. 1 hour.

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