Interview with master djembefola Bolokada Conde

It can be difficult to find the opportunity, to meet and learn from the world’s greatest djembefola’s.

For those who don’t have the chance, we tried for the next best thing.
We interviewed one of the greatest djembefolas to have lived, Bolokada Conde, and he reveals some interesting information about how he learn’t to play, and how he came to travel the world with Les Percussions de Guinée.

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Trip to guinea with Bolokada Conde


Grand Master’s Tour – An Important Message from Mamady Keita and Famoudou Konate

The djembe is the symbol of joy

As many of you know the Grand Master’s Tour has just finished up.

Here’s a great message from Mamady and Famoudou.

Here’s a transcription:

This tour that we are now finishing, is a tour that I have dreamed of for years.

Why have we done this tour?

It’s to show between djembefolas you must have repect not jealously. It’s not a competition.

If you give a djembe to your student, they can do the phrases you can do.

So we’re here to show the djembefolas of the world, not to create competition, but to create repect.

Because if the 2 of us create competition between us, then all the djembefolas that follow us, will make a war amonst themselves. Especially the young.

So we are creating an example for the young people, a good example.

In addition to this, I would like to say, in the name of my big brother, thank you for being here.

Don’t think of yourselves as white. Think of yourselves as doing the same mission as us.

What is that mission?

To preserve and protect the tradition of Mandeng.

And to protect tradition all over the world, and we must respect it.

..and our mission and your misssion is freedom and tollerance. To have good spirit, to be open.

To show that colour doesn’t exist. It doesn’t exist. What really matters is spirit.

Let the politicians create the borders, but us the people, we will remove the borders from our hearts.

We’ll come together and work together, we’ll come together and dance together. We’ll play together, we’ll celebrate togehers. The djembe is the symbol of joy.

My big brother and I are going to do a demonstratrion. Just to say thank you very much for being here.

…and to say that we love you from the bottom of our hearts.

Interview with M’Bemba Bangoura

While at the Won Na Won Malan conference in Chicago, Illinois, Paddy caught up with M’bemba Bangoura. Won Na Won Malan was hosted by Moustapha Bangoura, and there were many great drummers and dancers around.

M’Bembe gives us a better idea of who he is, his drumming background, experience and his drumming influences.

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Transcription of Interview with Sidiki Camara

This is a transcript of an interview with Sidiki Camara, a Master djembefola, from Mali.

James
Hello it’s James here. I’m here in Italy with Sidiki Camera, from Mali.

Sidiki do you want to introduce yourself and tell us a bit about yourself.

Sidiki
Yes, My name is Sidiki Camera, I come from Mali, originally from the South West of Mali. I’m a musician and I play percussion.

James
How old were you when you first started playing percussion.

Sidiki
The first time, I was very young. I started around 10, 11, 12, I started to play percussion.

James
What made you start to play. Did it run in your family or did you just start to play with your friends some day and you liked it,
or you had some kind of feeling that you wanted to play more?

Sidiki
It’s difficult for me to say exactly, where this came from, but 10 years ago I found out that my father was a drummer in the village.
I didn’t know that before. One day I went back to the village and people said to me, they are not suprised to see me play drums, your father
was a very big drummer in the village.

James
So it was inside you.

Sidiki
yes

James

So at some point you joined the ballet of Mali.

Sidiki
Yes

James
How old were you when you joined the ballet?

Sidiki
Before that I was playing for the school. We have some competitions between the differenct schools. In the school for eampl we have the part A, b C.
I was playing for my school frist and after that there was a competition between the citries in Bamako, and after that I was playing for the disctrict of BAmako.
There as a competition bbetween all the regions in Mali. THere was a competition was arranged once a year and everyone tries to find to good drummers to play with them.
At this moment they caled me and said they need me to come play solo in this competition. I was playing for the the ballet for the district of Mali.

James
and long were you playing for?

Sidiki
Many years, many years, but in 86, I stopped that, and I was in the national ballet after this.

James
ok, and with the national ballet did you travel aroudn Africa and the world.

Sidiki
Yes

James
all different Countries

Sidiki
Yes, I travelled a lot with the national ballet of MAli, I was soloist almost 10 years.

James
What was life like in the ballet. Did you do 6 hours of training a day

Sidiki
Yes, we were training every day from 9 o’clock until 2 o’clock in the afternoon, and only the weekend we are free.
We were working and we have a salary from the government, because it is the national ballet we have a salary every month.
That was very nice to represent hte country.

James
sure

So there was a feeling for you and other people of pride to represent Mali.

James
Was it very competitive? Was there a good atmostphere?

Sidiki
It was not easy. The first time when you arrive the ballet, everyone is open to you, but you must learn all the details of the ballet.
All the number you have to do fo the show. You have to know all the movement of the dance, and then you come to be soloist.
If you don’t know all of this, then you must do accompaniment all the time.

James
How important is the drumming and the dance together?
In my experience as an Irish person who came to the djembe recently.
My experience is to learn in a workshop, maybe I can play with my friends and have a good time.
Perhaps to me the connection with the dancing isn’t there.

Sidiki
They are together. If we are talking about drumming, we are talking about dancing.
It’s not drumming without dancing and it’s not dancing without druming.
In Mali it is this way, and everybody has to know many different dances and play many different rhythms for that.
Before that, you need to learn with somebody and it takes a long time you have to be patient and to calm down and calm down and be patient.

James
So in order to be a great djembe player you have to know the dances and you have to know the moves.

Sidikik
You have to know the details of hte dance, how you manage to give the signal, to change to go to the second one, it’s a lot of work,
but we don’t have to think it’s hard work. It can be hard work, and easy. If you are interested, it’s coming to be easy.

James
So you’ve played with some of the greatest musicians in Mali and Guinea.
Is there any of these bands that you enjoyed playing with the most, or any that stick out in your mind more than others.

It’s always like this, it’s not to choose in the beginning, if you choose you have to have to choose the people who you don’t have problems to be with them.
I have played with many Malian stars and many European stars and American stars. I was playing a lot with them from Malian music, to Jazz music and blues and many different kinds of music.

James
You like Jazz music?

Sidiki
Yes I play all the time Jazz music

James
You play drum kit?

Sidiki
I play drum set.

James
Did you teach yourself?

Sidiki
In the beginning I learnt myself, I learnt very fast. Any kinds of music, I can learn very very quickly, and I was starting and was learning with somebody to develop more technique.
and one time I decided to stop playin the drum set, and I decided, I have to make something more traditional, and I was thinking about african drums, and many different
instrumtruments from africa, and to put something that could represtent drum set, and that was my creation.

James
So you have your own set up?

Sidiki
Yes I have my own drumset.

James
and do you use dunduns as well?

s
No not dundun, only djembe and 2 percussions from Ghana, called kpanlogo, I have 2 of these and djembe + calabash. It’s like a pumpkin, a big one. But I use only the half and I put
a mike inside and I have a symbol and chimes and a small egg and 2 sticks like this, and I have all things and I have tied bells on my feet to represent high-hat.
This is some technique I was developing and to adapt to many different types of music.
It can be blues, jazz reggae and any different kind of music I can have the possibility to use these kinds of instruments.

James
For Jazz music, do you see a difference in the people when they are playing the music,
I have seen some jazz recently at a festival in Nice and sometime the musicians are so good that it’s difficult to realise how good they are.
And sometimes when I look at it, I feel that they don’t even know that there is an audience you know.
They just play for themselves and there pleasure and then afterwards everybody claps and they only then realise ….
Where as to me African music is more encompassing.

S
It’s something I can say, people never see like this before and they never think that the sound is going to be like this, and that was my work.
To show people that african music can have a place everywhere. Every kind of music, it’s not only AFrican music that are using African instruments
and it’s like a European instruments, we don’t htink that its onlyh for Europeans. We need to move that in African music.

James
It’s very interesting because there’s such an interest in the Djembe around the world now, amongst everybody. Japanese people, German people,
I wonder where this will go. There are so many fantastic musicians for sure.

In your travels have you met any non-African djembe players that you were impressed with?

Sidiki
We have many good African drummers, that’s not a problem, but the thing is only to adapt. If everyone starts to think ok, I’m a drummer,
I have to do some different things to adapt the djembe for example to jazz music or the blues or classical music, for example country music, I can have possiblitiy in any kind of music.

James
So you wouldn’t have a problem with people using the djembe in any other kinds of music?

Sidiki
No I don’t.

The problem is only to know the way you are going to use the djembe, we need to see people respect the djembe.
there are amany peiple using the djembe who don’t respect the djmebe. If for example if you put one djembe here and one piano or for example violin and many people
can pass here, and everyone want to try the djembe, but they don’t want to try the piano.

They are not conscious to think about this instrument you have to repect it.

James
It’s a lot about education, isn’t it. Most people haven’t seen a djembe before, I would say. Even if people see djembe in the street, they see it played very badly
in my experience.

Do you think that speed is a lot to do with physical strengh or is it more technique or is it the 2.

For me, not really. For me to play djembe you don’t need to pay very, very, very fast. For example, if you play for the dance and you start to play slowly and build up your speed.
Coming to be not very fast, you have to be in the middle, and you can look at the movement of the dance to see it’s a very nice movement and they can go high. Their arm can go very high, but if you change the speed the go very fast.
The arm have to do that it comes only this high…. and that’s why many movements of the dance is changing and many phrases of djembe is changing it’s only about the speed, and this is something good.

people can see you can play very fast. And it’s one time to say “wow, that’s really, really, really fast, I’m really impressed to see that”, but the qualty is not there.

James
Yea ok, it can get boring I find

Sidiki
…but that does not mean that the people don’t play good. It’s different.

James
Do you think you’ve seen a change in the playing have gone in the last 20 recent years

Sidiki
It’s the generation. When we start to play we never played really fast like they play now, and I’m not old man but from the people now
I can say it’s not more than 20 years they play djembe, I can say it’s more than 30 years I play djembe. It’s something different in the generation; and it’s difficult to tel them, you need to calm down. It’s like you are telling them ok you don’t play good, you have to calm down, it’s a different way.

But if you go to the national ballet of Mali, still today they don’t play very fast and we have to keep the movement,
and it can be more nice movement and to see the feet to the head and everything can start from the beginning to the last part.

but now if you play very fast and the movement is only like htis , it’s almost jumping, jumping dance.

James
Why do you think they are playing faster? HAs you playing changed since when you were younger?

It was the same, the moment I started to play I never saw somone play very very very fast, like now. Everybody wants to play very fast to show themselves.

But if you don’t have this energy, it’s not possible to play at this speed.

It’s only that and it’s coming to be a competition between the young people. To say “I’m stronger than you” and it’s only that to say it’s kind of power.

They are young, they have a lot of energy and they need to show their biceps. It’s not bad, it means that the tradition has been through an evolution, but the most important thing is that they don’t forget
the basics, that everything started from the basics.

It they forget about the basics, they can say that they play djembe but they are doing something wrong.

James
Do you think that with many of the younger players, the way they have learn’t djembe is different to the way you learn’t djembe?

Sididki
Many don’t know the tradition. Many of them they don’t know the tradition. They learn from weddings and parties, they never ask to know why we play this rhythm. Why are we using this rhythm. They don’t know.
They don’t explain many details (James: when they are teaching) or maybe they can create somethings and then they have something to tell.

But we need to keep the tradition, for me it is like the tradition starts to die.

James
Are you aware that Mamady Keita has created this Tam Tam Manding School, he has this kind of institution….

Sidiki
Yes Mamady Keita has a school like this. I was making a school too for Malian culture.

James
When I talked to him about this, he said that the reason is because of what you’ve been talking about, that he saw this problem, that he kept coming across people that don’t have this knowledge, and this was one of the reasons he created the school,
to try to have some kind of control knowing if a person knows something.

Sidiki
Ya, but you know we are thinking differently. It’s a different thinking and different experience, he can think his part this way and I have my thinking too and this is something for me, it’s a real pity, to see the young people don’t protect the too much tradition. Evolution is ok, it’s very very nice, everybody needs to do new things and try new things, but the basics come from the tradition and if we don’t protect the tradition it’s coming to be a very big problem.
In 20 years time we don’t talk about African tradition, in percussion.

James
How important do you think it is for people with and interest in this music to travel to West Africa to experience the culture for themselves.

Sidiki
It’s very important. It’s not enough to learn African culture in Europe, it’s not enough. you have to go down there and to see how they manage to do the things and they need to know it’s not only the capital. You can learn some tradition in the capital, but it’s not enough people have to go to the village to see the life in the village, and you can understand more.
But in europe, here everything is easy, but if you go to Africa, you can see the diffence, the possibilities we have here, they don’t have there.
In the village life, you can see they live without electrity and in some place it’s difficult to find water.

If you go there, and you can see how they manage to find these kind of things. You start to realise the difference between people. And they are nice people and they are open to see people the new people are coming to them and they are
very happy and come more open to see ok we want to be with them and everybody say hello to everybody, you can say everybody knows everybody.
It’s not complicated, but the tradition from that and is coming very down.

James
In the village also, the tradition is coming down?

It the same way, the young People they don’t want to stay in the village, they want to go to the capital to have work and they go there, and they have never been in school and they don’t know many things and they come in the capital and it’s very hard to find a place to stay, and to find a job, it’s difficult to find something to eat, and what can you do. Maybe you are going to steel and have more problems and some people they start taking drugs and this is a great pity.

People can think to give help to the people from the village and give more motivation to them. You don’t need to go to the capital, you have to create something and to work in a different way and you can have more things and to stay, but it’s not easy.

James
So when you do your course in Mali…..you have a course in Mali?

Sidiki
Yes, I organise a workshop in Mali. I start in the capital.

Once week in the capital and in the second week we go to the village, and the people from my workshop, they can help the people in the village, buying the small things they want to sell and to have money and they have food, and people are bringing food and clothes and t-shirts they don’t need anymore.
You know in Europe people when they buy new t-shirts the old one, they throw it away.

But we need that and many people I talk to to keep and bring to them and share with everybody.

You can bring it for children, everything is welcome. It is help for them, they don’t get too much money and if they have to buy the food and the clothes, it’s not very easy.

And to build a school and bring more education.

James
So if people are interested in coming on your course, they can contact you. (James: See bottom of page for more information on contacting Sidiki).

Sidiki
I make a project, a very nice project to help my village.

James
It’s a charity?

Sidiki
It’s not a charity I want to help the village (James: more a project), by building a school. All children have to go school, for free, this is something very important. We want to provide medicine and a place that people can go for free

James
Thats good, it sounds like a great project

Ok, I think we should leave it there, you’re a great man and a great player and thanks for taking the time to talk to me.

Sidiki
Thank you.

James: For more information on Sidiki’s course and his charity work for his village, check out his website.

Interview with Sidiki Camara

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Sidiki Camara

I caught up with Sidiki at the Mama Africa Festival, which took place from the 25th of July until the 1st of August near Mulazzo in Italy.

Sidiki Camera was the lead soloist for the Ballet of Mali for 11 years, so he has knows his way around a djembe and has seen some major changes in the way djembe is approached and played in the last 20 years.

We talked about these changes, djembe technique and Sidiki’s hopes for the future of djembe and more.

The Sabar starts about 30 seconds after we start the interview (it doesn’t last for the entire length of the video and we have done our best job on the sound to improve it’s quality). We apologise for the quality (it’s quite distracting at times), so if you’re having trouble you may like to check out the transcript for this interview.

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Djembe news in June

This is the monthly djembefola.com newsletter, which is emailed to subscribers every month. If you’re not already on the list, why not sign up now!

Hi Djembe lovers,
We’ve got a great newsletter for you this month.
First of all don’t miss the chance to win a signed copy of Monette’s new album, Coup d’Eclat. All you have to do is give us some feedback about what you’d like to see more of in the newsletter and on the djembefola.com in general.

We also have a video interview with Master Djembefola, Amara Kante from Guinea, a great new article about how to choose a djembe and much more.

Interview with Master djembefola – Amara Kante

Amara Kante is a unique Guinean djembe master who was born in the Ivory Coast. As such he has a wide range of knowledge across many ethnic groups and musical styles.

He was kind enough to do an interview with me and my friend Pierrot, after a brilliant workshop he gave here in the South of France. I have to say this was the most challenging workshop I’ve ever done and his knowledge goes very deep.

Amara is a passionate traditionalist and this is definitely worth checking out, click here to check it out..

This one’s in French folks, but there will soon be subtitles soon, so check back if your don’t speak Francais!

A guide to choosing a djembe


Paddy, a regular contributor to djembefola.com, has put together a really detailed, illustrated guide for buying a djembe.

Whether you are buying your first djembe, or considering buying your 10th drum at some point in the future, everyone can learn something from this article.

New Artists Section

Due to positive feed back and a need to better organise our artist’s biographies, we have created a new ‘djembe artists section’. Our ever hard working Bubudi has also added 5 new biographies for us to enjoy. I really enjoy reading these and learning more about the masters who’s music we enjoy so much.

Media of the Month

Each month we present some great videos that have been shared by the community.
This month we present:
– A clip from Mamady Keita’s 50th years of career tour.
– Another Fantastic Sewa Kan Video, that even my girlfriend likes
– Barbara Bangoura teaches KeiKei

…till the next time

That’s it for this month folks. Don’t forget to give us your feed back and be in with a chance to win Monette’s great new CD.

If you found this newsletter interesting, why not share it with a friend and if you were forwarded this newsletter, why not sign up now.
Until next time, happy drumming!
James

Djembe News – for May

Welcome to another edition of the djembefola.com newsletter.

This month we have an interview with Monette Marina-Keita, wife of legendary Mamady Keita., and we also review some of the best djembe videos on the web.

This month we introduce 2 new features on the newsletter. Read up on the great masters and prodigies of West African drumming and dance on the Biography of the Month. Then learn about traditions and culture in West Africa in the Cultural Focus.

Interview with Monette Marino-Keita
Last month, I interviewed Monette Marino-Keita a great American percussionist who has a lot of professional experience playing djembe. She spends a lot of time travelling the world with her husband, djembe legend Mamady Keita. She helps him to teach workshops and they perform regularly.

Monette has just released her first album Coup d’Eclat, which is getting rave reviews and features Mamady Keita on many tracks. I too can vouch for its awesome funkyness. Coup d’Eclat can be purchased from Amazon and cd baby.

Monette is a lot of fun, and I personally found this interview very insightful you can watch it here.

Media of the Month

Here is a selection of the best djembe media this month:
– Nansady Keita has released a new CD, Farafina Sangbarala.
– Adama Drame has released a documentary film, A Griot’s Story.
– Kerfala ‘Fana’ Bangoura launches his debut CD.
– Naby Camara releases an exciting new Balafon instructional DVD.
– Nansady Keita gives us an insight into his life in his short documentary, “That’s Why I Love It“.

Cultural Focus
This month we looked at the Djole mask dance and its origins. We also feature a rare video of the mask and dance. Be sure to have a look.

Featured in the forum
The rhythm of the month discussions are underway. We are studying Yankadi this month.

We have some great personal insights from many of our members into what life lessons the djembe has taught them.

We have a great discussion going on the amazing dununba rhythms.

Biography of the Month
Zoumana Dembele is one of the most promising djembefolas to come out of West Africa. Read more about him.

Interview with Sydney based African dance teacher, Mory Traore

Mory Traore and Aicha Keita are 2 talented dancers and dance teachers from Conakry, Guinea. They currently teach and perform in Sydney, Australia.

Last year James and Drew from the djembefola.com team sat down to have a chat about who they are, where they come from and where they’re going.

James
So Mory, where are you from and how did you come to dancing?

Mory
I was born in Conakry in Guinea, now I live in Sydney Australia. I have been dancing since I was 7 or 8 years. I learnt from Ballet Matam. My teacher’s name was Sekouba Camara and he taught me how to dance and he was a very good teacher.

Drew
Sekouba was a big man in the ballets?

Mory
Yes Ballet Djoliba, Ballet Africain, but he died 1 month ago, so I am very sad.

James
From Guinea to Australia, how long have you been living in Sydney?

Mory
I have been living here for 3 years now. 2 years ago I teamed up with Jeli Bouba Kuyateh from Melbourne, we toured around Australia, Darwin, Brisbane, Melbourne, Lismore. Performing and teaching a little bit.

Since then I have been working with a group called Drum Beats, doing corporate work as well as many other kinds of performance.

Drew
How do you find the corporate stuff compared to what you were doing back home?

Mory
Yes it’s very different. It’s like teaching, but it’s really basic. Back home, we work very hard, but here it’s much easier.

James
In what way is it easier?

Mory
With teaching, it is harder because many people, have never danced before. You have to be patient, and teach them slowly. For performance, you know what you are doing, so it’s easy. For teaching, it’s a little harder.

Drew
So the dancing comes more easily for someone from Guinea?

Mory
Yes its easier for people from Guinea.

James
I suppose in Africa there they are used to hearing the drumming where as here they aren’t used to the music.

Mory
In Guinea we’re drumming all the time. In Guinea, I danced in the Ballet Monday to Friday, its like a job.

James
How many years did you dance in the Ballet?

Mory
15 or 16 years… but I really enjoyed that, it’s good to learn and it’s very important. Now I live in Australia and I’m happy to share my culture. It’s good for them to understand our culture.

Drew
When you do a dance are you telling a story of something in the culture.

Mory
Yes, some movements are telling a story, like when you’re washing the clothes and putting them up to dry. All the Rhythms in my country you play them for some reason. Everything has a meaning. You play for this reason.

To learn. It’s good to tell Australian people what this means and what that means.

James
In Conakry do they play rhythms outside their normal context?

Mory
Yes, but only in the Ballet, to learn. In Conakry, the same, but only the Ballet, you learn everything, and we play for the families when they have something special, like weddings or if someone wants to get married or if someone dies.

Drew
When you said about some movements telling a story, would you be able to demonstrate a step from a dance to show a step and what it means?

* Mory kindly obliges *

Drew
Where do you see yourself going with the dance in the future?

Mory
I’m going to keep going with the dancing until I get old, and then maybe then I’ll stop

Drew
Do you have an advice for people in Australia who want to learn to dance?

Mory
They should come to my dance class to learn :). It’s a little hard for some people if they’ve never danced before, but we can help them.
We have simple steps that will be easy for them.

I think it’s important for them to learn West African dancing because it’s good their bodies.

Drew
What if there are good dancers in your class?

Mory
You have to mix and add some harder steps so we can check the level of people in the diagonals.

James
So the way you’re teaching is it the same way you learnt?

Mory
No it’s different. In Africa, people don’t have time to teach you like that. You just look and you do it. Sometimes your friends can help you afterwards, but not normally you don’t have that kind of opportunity.

In Africa you can see a step and you can try to learn it. In our Ballet, we try to create new steps all the time. So we put together traditional steps from the village.

Lots of steps are original, but many are created on the way.

When you have a lot of experience you can come to dance class and just do your dance class, you don’t even have to think about what your will do. It is easy for your when you know what you are doing.

I really enjoy doing my dancing. I really enjoy performing and teaching.

James
How important is it to smile when you dance?

Mory
It’s very important. You can’t dance if you’re not happpy and if your not happy you can’t dance. It’s important to show poeple that you are happy and you can make people happy at the same time.

Drew
When you dance in the Ballet, how often do you do repetition?

Mory
Every day, Monday to Friday. Sometimes 5 / 6 hours a day.

James
Nobody compains about the drumming?

Mory
No, they don’t complain, not even at 2 in the morning.

When you do a wedding in the streeet, like a dundunba, you don’t even have to invite people. Just start and you’ll see how many people will be there….

Even 1 – 2 o’clock in the morning, they will come and they will be happy.

Mory and Aicha are African Dance teachers in Sydney.

They currently teach at noon every Saturday at Forest Lodge Public School near Glebe.